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Re:Iraq – What do we do now? - 2006/09/03 12:42 micpi,

Klein is a partisan hack - has always been. At one point he supported the notion that soldiers in Iraq should shoot their officers.

That aside, the interesting news is that the plan is working. I won't debate that the plan has changed over time - as any good strategy does, tactics have to be flexible and they will change. But the facts are quite different from what you hear in the news today.

First off - still no civil war. There are insurgents (let's call them what they really are - murderers) that are attacking mostly civilians, but that has not changed ever. The country is surging economically and unemployment is approaching pre-war percentages. The worst area of the country is Baghdad and last month boasted deaths of combatantants and civilians down by 49% (see here and here and here - and these are only one of dozens of reports I can show). The training of the Iraqi army and police is moving along as scheduled. In fact, over 50% of the planned army has been trained, equipped, and has taken over most areas of the country (see here - be sure to click on the images of the maps. You may not like the site, but he did not make the graphs.). That has allowed US troops to move back into Baghdad - and you see the results - violence is being quelled.

Is there still danger? Of course there is. But, there was danger for years in Germany after the Nazis were defeated. Same in Japan. The biggest difference is that in those cases the attacks were directed against troops and not civilians. Nevertheless, the government is stabilizing - not there yet, but getting there.

As for Klein - he is still clinging to the Bush lied meme...which is now being thoroughly discredited by even the liberal newspapers (most papers are) and even some top demoncratic operatives like Bob Beckel have said that the whole Joe Wilson thing was brought on by Wilson. The SSCI called Wilson a liar.

Please don't start me on WMDs again. You should check out the work being done on Project Harmony around the web. Believe it or not, chemical weapon caches have been found in Iraq (see here and here and probably most important, here). I am not going to jump on the band-wagon that all the stuff was moved to Syria (yet), but the documents being translated by Project Harmony show that WMDs were very much a part of Hussein's planning. So was supporting terrorists - Al Quaeda and others - down to having camps that turned out thousands of trained murderers. There may have been some bad intelligence gathering, but decsions were made based on what was reported. Much of it was good intelligence though.

You should also check out the information coming from Centcom. Now I know you may not trust government sources, but not everyone in government lies. The site provides an excellent counterpoint to MSM.
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